If you had lived in Newcastle in 1981...

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:15 pm

Not mine dude, the others are those who suck

I wouldn't have said anything, blame those who said that we wouldn't be listening to real metal if were born earlier

And now that I am thinking of it, I wouldn't mind having beaten the shit out of some Quartz and Deep Purple fans once or twice with a couple of other Hellbastard and Extreme Noise Terror fans back in 1987

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:48 am

ION BRITTON wrote:And now that I am thinking of it, I wouldn't mind having beaten the shit out of some Deep Purple fans

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:21 am

I don't believe that we are born with a musical taste. I believe that we develop a musical taste by being exposed to things at certain times in life. We are open to some things and to some things we aren't, and to some of those things we might open up later, give that we have opened the right doors in the right order before.

I have been listening to metal since around 1991, but I don't consider myself to have been a genre aware metal head until 1995, and that was when I (age 13) was exposed to my first true favorite band, which was Blind Guardian. It was their music that in me struck a chord so strong that I knew no music could ever compete with the awesomeness of metal, so metal was what I needed to dedicate myself to.

The funny thing about this is I know I heard Venom for the first time in 1995 too and I thought it was unbelievable how much they sucked. For years Venom was my benchmark of suckiness. Today as some of you might know I love Venom. But in 1995 I was not open to Venom yet, I had simply not opened the right doors yet. I needed to go from Blind Guardian further into melodic speed metal, classic heavy metal, discover some 80's bands and learn to love that production and aesthetics, to thrash metal and so on, then Venom sounded like a completely different band to me because my references had widened.

So, in Newcastle in 1981, needless to say Blind Guardian would not have been there to start making me a metal fan and eventually guide me towards Venom, Blitzkrieg and Satan. There's no way of telling for me how my musical taste would have developed back then. It all depends on events, at least I believe so. Maybe I would have become a metal fan and banged my head in the front row when Satan did their first show with Brian Ross, or maybe I wouldn't.

'pataphysicien · Post by **'pataphysicien** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:37 pm

good post. organisms are not born, they are made.

GJ · Post by GJ » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:07 pm

I used to hate Voivod (War and Pain - Killing Technology) which my brother always played - but got into Dimension Hatröss when it was released and then worked my way backwards from there.

Cirith Ungol didn't do much for me at first listen (One foot in Hell - probably heard it first in 1990 or so). Then I got King of the Dead & Frost and Fire some five years later and it clicked right away.

And I adored Divine Victim the first time I heard Manilla Road in late 1986 but the rest of the album (The Deluge) had to soak in for a year or more before I really started to appreciate it.

So obviously I had to aquire the taste - thus I must be a scam - false. A poser.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:27 pm

mordred wrote:There's no way of telling for me how my musical taste would have developed back then. It all depends on events, at least I believe so. Maybe I would have become a metal fan and banged my head in the front row when Satan did their first show with Brian Ross, or maybe I wouldn't.

Exactly, that's why I said that all this discussion is based on speculations. You can't be sure in what way your character and tastes would develop if you were born 10-15 earlier. The things and events that could shape you as a person could have been totally different back then and so your attitude and mentality could be very different from what it is today, regardless of whether it concerns music or not. You can;t be sure about it, theoretically anything could have happened.

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:50 pm

... that's why it's so interesting to discuss this.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:56 pm

Maybe it is. Now that I imagine the scenario with my parents being heavily into disco, I don't feel that there's much more to say....

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:31 pm

These things are genetic. As far as I'm concerned I would've always found my way to heavy metal (or just epic classical music in the eve before the Sabbath). It might've just taking longer or shorter depending on the timeframe. In the early eighties probably shorter.