Bootleg Warning Thread - CD (2012)

Warepire · Post by **Warepire** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:18 am

Helstar wrote:It happened also with Agressor some time ago, I think they read this forum ^^

As I said in my post on the previous page they are a member here. I bet that in a month or so, those are added to stock again.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:46 am

Also does anyone know anything about Tyrant (US) Brainstorm Division edition bootlegs? I read on Metal Treasures that there are such bootlegs. Does it mean Brainstorm Division editions are bootlegs or just that there are bootlegs of those editions?

Also I read somewhere that the Old Metal edition of Hammer "Contract With Hell" is legit! Is this true? Also what about the Backwater reissue?

Sorry for so many questions at once.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:34 am

Zdan wrote:Also does anyone know anything about Tyrant (US) Brainstorm Division edition bootlegs? I read on Metal Treasures that there are such bootlegs. Does it mean Brainstorm Division editions are bootlegs or just that there are bootlegs of those editions?

I don't know about BD, but there are identical boots of the Art of Music editions of both Legions.. and Too Late.., it's the ones that had the hidden bonus tracks at the last track.

Yakish · Post by **Yakish** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:58 am

Zdan wrote:If you can do that it would be great. I need to double check my CD because I got it recently so it might be a bootleg.

If your copy is different, please post here photo or scan of it. Also you still didn't post scan of Griffin bootleg. Do you remember?

caminantenocturno · Post by **caminantenocturno** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:59 am

Warepire wrote:
Helstar wrote:It happened also with Agressor some time ago, I think they read this forum ^^
As I said in my post on the previous page they are a member here. I bet that in a month or so, those are added to stock again.

If that is true there will be shortly even better bootleg, undistinguishable from the original pressings ...

George A · Post by **George A** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:53 am

Hello

to clear everything concerning Dealer cds that was mentioned here.

Dealer - bootlegged cd:

AND

dealer - First Strike cd:

ARE 100000% official releases with the permission of the band.
Both releases are on my label "Obscure Nwobhm Releases".
Dealer - First Strike is a co-operation with No remorse records

YES the First strike is straight from the bands master and not rip-vinyl copy or low mp3 recordings.

Dealer - first strike is the one and only Legit release on cd format. all others are not released with the permission of the band.

thanks

George A.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:18 pm

ION BRITTON wrote:
Zdan wrote:Also does anyone know anything about Tyrant (US) Brainstorm Division edition bootlegs? I read on Metal Treasures that there are such bootlegs. Does it mean Brainstorm Division editions are bootlegs or just that there are bootlegs of those editions?
I don't know about BD, but there are identical boots of the Art of Music editions of both Legions.. and Too Late.., it's the ones that had the hidden bonus tracks at the last track.

The Art Of Music/Brainstorm Division are actually the same ones - they have both logos on the CD's. When did those boots actually come up? I both my copies around 2000-2001.

As for the Mania scan - thank you! I will double check when I get from work. As for the Griffin bootleg I have to scan it differently because the quality is horrible. Will work on it.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:20 pm

Zdan wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:
Zdan wrote:Also does anyone know anything about Tyrant (US) Brainstorm Division edition bootlegs? I read on Metal Treasures that there are such bootlegs. Does it mean Brainstorm Division editions are bootlegs or just that there are bootlegs of those editions?
I don't know about BD, but there are identical boots of the Art of Music editions of both Legions.. and Too Late.., it's the ones that had the hidden bonus tracks at the last track.
The Art Of Music/Brainstorm Division are actually the same ones - they have both logos on the CD's. When did those boots actually come up? I both my copies around 2000-2001.

No, I think they came up at least 3-4 years later than that.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:30 pm

ION BRITTON wrote:
Zdan wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:
I don't know about BD, but there are identical boots of the Art of Music editions of both Legions.. and Too Late.., it's the ones that had the hidden bonus tracks at the last track.
The Art Of Music/Brainstorm Division are actually the same ones - they have both logos on the CD's. When did those boots actually come up? I both my copies around 2000-2001.

No, I think they came up at least 3-4 years later than that.

Cool. I know mine are okay then. Any differences between the original and bootles or are they totally identical?

akira · Post by **akira** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:40 pm

George A wrote:Hello

to clear everything concerning Dealer cds that was mentioned here.

Dealer - bootlegged cd:

AND

dealer - First Strike cd:

ARE 100000% official releases with the permission of the band.
Both releases are on my label "Obscure Nwobhm Releases".
Dealer - First Strike is a co-operation with No remorse records

YES the First strike is straight from the bands master and not rip-vinyl copy or low mp3 recordings.

Dealer - first strike is the one and only Legit release on cd format. all others are not released with the permission of the band.

thanks

George A.

It would be better if you ripped the vinyl . Sound on First Strike is very bad.
I was also disappointed with other resissues. They sound pretty bad. Although the idea for reissuing these awesome albums is great , I found pretty annoying that you didn't make some effort to make these cd's sound best as possible. This way they sound and look like some cheap bootlegs. Opportunity missed and what's more people are giving money for these cd's.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:15 pm

emperor.zola wrote:
Troma wrote:I also almost bought a Pyracanda CD buy it now for 20€, until I saw that the seller also had those mausoleum classix for sale.

about the exumer, there was a small discussion in the musik-sammler forum

a member asked the seller of the exumer bootlegs and this seem to be the matrix codes of them

Possessed By Fire : 887529 x-727
Rising From The Sea : 10007 P+O - 0981-A 02-88

the original matrix of Possessed is

880529 X 720 B

The "B" in the matrix is hardly visible, if I remember right.
So this must be the original: Exumer martix

Just ask for a proper scan from one of us. I'm not basing opinions off partial scans anymore. I learned my lesson from the Aggressor bullshit last time.

By the way, I'll be listing an authentic copy of "Rising From The Sea" on ebay in the next couple weeks.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:20 pm

caminantenocturno wrote:
Warepire wrote:
Helstar wrote:It happened also with Agressor some time ago, I think they read this forum ^^
As I said in my post on the previous page they are a member here. I bet that in a month or so, those are added to stock again.
If that is true there will be shortly even better bootleg, undistinguishable from the original pressings ...

There's no such thing. There is always a way to tell. People need to start asking for pictures instead of numbers around the center ring of the CD.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:21 pm

akira wrote:
George A wrote:Hello

to clear everything concerning Dealer cds that was mentioned here.

Dealer - bootlegged cd:

AND

dealer - First Strike cd:

ARE 100000% official releases with the permission of the band.
Both releases are on my label "Obscure Nwobhm Releases".
Dealer - First Strike is a co-operation with No remorse records

YES the First strike is straight from the bands master and not rip-vinyl copy or low mp3 recordings.

Dealer - first strike is the one and only Legit release on cd format. all others are not released with the permission of the band.

thanks

George A.
It would be better if you ripped the vinyl . Sound on First Strike is very bad.
I was also disappointed with other resissues. They sound pretty bad. Although the idea for reissuing these awesome albums is great , I found pretty annoying that you didn't make some effort to make these cd's sound best as possible. This way they sound and look like some cheap bootlegs. Opportunity missed and what's more people are giving money for these cd's.

The problem with this is actually that most of the albums we are talking about are fairly obscure and most people jump at a chance of a legit reissue because they know it is not very likely that another label will do it with better packaging or sound. So they buy what is available and are happy.

As for the Tyrant Art Of Music/Brainstorm Division bootlegs I did some digging around and apart from a few ebay listings and Metal Treasures database I got NO info on those. Are they truly identical? I was hoping of hunting down the Brainstorm division pressing of the first Steel Prophet album but that seems to be bootlegged as well.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:45 pm

Zdan wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:
Zdan wrote:
The Art Of Music/Brainstorm Division are actually the same ones - they have both logos on the CD's. When did those boots actually come up? I both my copies around 2000-2001.

No, I think they came up at least 3-4 years later than that.
Cool. I know mine are okay then. Any differences between the original and bootles or are they totally identical?

I don't own the originals, but the boots seems like very identical ones except for some blurring on the artwork.

Khnud · Post by **Khnud** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:48 pm

For us uninterested in matrix numbers - could we have two bootleg threads? One for CD's and one for vinyl?

Bootleg Warning Thread - CD (2012)

Dealer - cd

Re: Dealer - cd

Re: Dealer - cd